Coach's Wonderful Jury Thread

[Coach]

I've been a little bit original with my jury questioning in that I've done a video. Since nobody else has made a video all game, I'm proud of the outcome.

I've broken it into four parts. An intro and a specific part to each of the final three. In each part is a summary of what I liked and disliked about each of your games, my current standing on you as a player and how you can win me your respective votes.

Since I got confirmation this can be a semi-ongoing thing until the end I will probably carry this on a little longer. You guys need to work for my vote damnit. I only get to make one and it has to count.

Anyway here is my intro video. I'll be posting up the other parts when Youtube stops being a bitch.

[Coach]

Kicking things off on the Jay front and....it's a tricky one.

[Coach]

Moving along now that Youtube has allowed it to Bob Dawg....

Who may be an associate of mine.

[Coach]

Last video which is significantly shorter. Sorry Ted, you're just not worth my time.

[Jay Byars]

Hi!

First off, don't post an almost 5 minute video explaining how you are undecided on your vote and then rule me out within the opening of your video to me, if you were undecided I would still be in consideration as this is a 3 way vote, not a 2 way, so let's not beat around the bush.

I know you don't want to hear about my Silent Assassin but I feel the need to just post this. This was one of my early posts about my role of it in the game, check the date stamp and content;

Jul 28, 2012 19:02:20 GMT -5 Jay Byars said:

Gee Kim, thanks for including me in this alliance after expressing numerous times you wanted to work with me! Dumbass. Kim, it's stupid moves like this that get you killed by the silent assassin and you're now going to pay the price. Ted, Ace, Kourtney & I are all throwing the challenge, sorry Lex & Brett and voting you out.

Not bullshit. This was the role I carried out even pre-merge and it was how I wanted to play the game.

The point about the game being no different had I not played will now be addressed. Straight off the bat I made it pretty clear I didn't want to go early and was actually here to play, despite Gwadatoo hardly ever winning immunity I was present for a majority of the challenges and even some into the early morning for me, I make the challenges when I can and when I do make them I put my all into it. In the early stages despite me never having heavy game talk, as I chose not to as stated in my other questions I dropped hints about who I wanted out and when. With the information about my game thoughts circling amongst a few people, they knew where I wanted to be and what I wanted to be, impacting the starting discussions for the vote and setting the way for the first 3 tribal councils I attended removing Sekou, John & Eliza from the game. One huge impact I feel I had on one of the major moves in the game was Ace's decision to mutiny. As much as I hate pre-existing relationships in these games I knew Ace & J.T, not until they were in the game however did they reveal themselves to me. Ace came to me the first chance he could about mutiny and I made him feel safe and able to jump ship, I feel had I not been on the tribe Ace may not have joined Gwadatoo and the whole game would have been different.

Your attacks on my social game I find to be ridiculous. Just because we never spoke much or at length does not mean I was like that with everyone, I was far from it. I spoke almost daily and in great depth to Ted, Bob, Ace, Kourtney, Wanda, Judd, Semhar, Kim, J.T. which is pretty good going for a cast of 22. I wanted them all to like me as a person feel safe around me. To carry this out one technique I used was the nickname strategy, giving me a small unique bond with a few people, for example Kourtney being Miss Wurldwide and Wanda being my Finacé, it just gives a small unique bond creating a greater social connection.

Finally, attacking the UTR mode of gameplay, look at Natalie White from Samoa and Jordan Lloyd from BB11, how did they win? By flying completely under the radar and having an incredible social game, much like myself. It's a strategy which has been proven to work and one I wanted to test out and try.

I hope you read this and take into consideration my words that just because I was UTR doesn't mean I didn't play the game. If I actually was a threat, as you said, you should have just gone to take me out and deal with the repercussions, it's how this game was being played and everyone was getting blindsided, I actually had the guts to make the votes and moves I did and it's why i'm sitting here in the end today.

[Ted Rogers]

Don't worry I am not insulted by my short video haha, I think I revealed most of my game in my opening and Ace's question.

There was one major point where I strongly considered breaking my Final 2 which was when Judd was blindsided. Prior to that, I trusted Bob 100%, and we had a F3 with actually with Judd as well. I also had an agreement to go F3 with Jay and Ace. So no matter what, I was always going to the finals if I stuck with Gwadatoo.

When I saw how easily Bob decided to ditch Judd, it made me worried. That's part of the reason I made an alliance with you and Mary immediately afterwards. That is also why I had brought up Bob's name as a consideration. This took a lot of power away from Bob me and him having seperate alliances, and I would see if I could TRULY continue trusting him if he stuck to his word this time to vote for Kelly so that Kourtney would actually go home.

Bob did, and Bob also gave up his idol to Ace the following round, so I felt at this point that Bob had reproven himself and his commitment to our alliance.

But tbh I was still always wary even after that of Bob "pulling a Judd" on me late game. I knew Jay would never betray me, and at the Final 4 vote he gave me his bootlist, which was Eliza first followed by Bob. It would be really hard to not consider voting Bob if Eliza had won immunity here, because it gave me 100% guaranteed tie IF Bob tried to make a move with Eliza to get me out at the Final 4.

Although my Final 2 may have been with Bob, I trusted Jay more along the way because he was more straight forward and upfront with me overall.


As for the second part of your question, I don't think I quite caught what you were saying "Incidently what is your favorite type of "score?" "school?" I am not sure what you were saying there . Also, what color do you remind me of? I always saw you as green, I am not sure why. I kinda thought of Coach as one with nature with I see as green.

Hope that answers your question.

[Ted Rogers]

Ok in watching your intro video I think you were asking what is my favorite type of squid. Well like how I am an expert on Icelandic bands, I also happen to be an expert on squids, so damn this is a really tough decision.

Personally my favorite squid is the Firefly Squid. It just seems so hypnotic. It attracts fish with it's dazzling light to their death. I always found the idea of beautiful things also being deadly at the same time to be kind of fascinating.

[Captain Bob Dawg]

During my break I only got part of Mike's done but I was able to watch your video and am really looking forward to answering your questions. I have class for the next 2.5 hours btu then i'll be ready to show you why I should win.

[Coach]

Aug 23, 2012 23:45:56 GMT -5 Jay Byars said:

Hi!

First off, don't post an almost 5 minute video explaining how you are undecided on your vote and then rule me out within the opening of your video to me, if you were undecided I would still be in consideration as this is a 3 way vote, not a 2 way, so let's not beat around the bush.

I am undecided on my vote and I didn't rule your out of my vote. I said that as things currently stand (as of posting those videos) my current bias was leaning towards a certain direction. But in order to maintain an unbiased front I'm going to give you each an equal footing to explain yourselves. I'm not going to ask a series of questions and then just say "yeah, I don't really care because I'm already voting for Ted or Bob".

At the point of making those, my opinions on your gameplay were at a certain point and the message I was trying to get out there was for you to sell your side. Since I don't know your side, I can only comment and vote on what I've seen and what I know. In order to put forth a convincing argument and shift my gameplay bias you have to give me something to work with.

If I was truly decided, I would have just skipped you entirely but the fact I made you a video and raised the questions and topics I wanted you to discuss is me giving you a fair chance to fight your corner. There will always be a bias since as a juror I can only conduct my verdict on given evidence. Therefore you have to provide me with evidence to the contrary and convince me of your case.

Unfortunately you have to do a little more work than the other two because of the way I was involved with those two in the game and because of my perspective. That doesn't discount you from the voting process and it doesn't automatically write you off. But pre-existing bias dictates that you have to provide a little more evidence to your gameplay qualities than Ted or Bob, both of which I witnessed firsthand. I didn't witness the qualities from you firsthand so I need to be sold.

That was the point I was trying to make. Sorry if it wasn't clear but I'm in no way completely ruling you out. If I was there would be no video.

I'll read and digest your other points and respond accordingly but I wanted to get this out first of all because I don't think you quite followed me on that front.

Also addressing the point where you state that just because I didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I fully agree. I don't deny that at all. But I need to see evidence and a solid argument or I don't know it didn't happen. Saying "well it did happen but you didn't see it" isn't a convincing argument. I can only vote on what I know.

Now you have raised these points and I will read what you've given me. But you have to appreciate that from my perspective, I didn't see certain aspects and I can't just assume they existed based on no evidence. So your job is to give me the evidence to the contrary and like I ask in the video, tell me what you added to the game. I didn't see much of it but the fact you got an idol is something, probably the only thing I firsthand experienced.

Anyway wanted to get that off my chest. Will read the rest and work out a response after.

[Captain Bob Dawg]

I am pretty sure I got all the questions from the video. Sorry it’s long I wanted to make sure I covered everything. Looking at my answers I feel that they have been solid but maybe not as detailed as desired so I really went into detail and I believe I proved why I should win this game.

Thanks for the questions they were good starting points for my arguments. If you have troubles finding a certain thing you asked about I will be sure to clarify it.



So I will not really answer these in order but I will kind of put it in chronological order. While 99% of my alliance are breakable when I make an alliance at the beginning of the game as long as that person is someone that I can whole heartedly trust I usually stick with it. Believe it or not I am not a heartless person and if I have been with someone from the very beginning I am not going to just leave them out in the cold. I’ll talk more about that later.

To answer the question you kind of half asked. Yes, Ted and I were in an alliance from the very beginning. We both talked about what to say in order to make sure our alliance was made a secret. Yes we did make a Final 3 with Judd but the original alliance was just me and Ted and that’s how I viewed it because whenever we made a decision early on Gwadatoo we did not really consult Judd that much.

Now to get onto the juice of your questions the stuff that really matters. I will start with the Outcast Alliance. Claiming I came up with the outcast alliance would be a lie however no one from Gwad knew about or suggested that I joined it. Kourtney brought up the idea of going against the two seemingly head honchos (Ted and Coach) and voting out one of the pawns. As far as I know I was either the first or second person to hear about it from her and I agreed that we should vote out Judd. I chose Judd. The reason I chose Judd was because I felt if Ace or Jay had left the other would be less likely to stick with Gwad. I along with Kourtney got Mike, Eliza, and Kelly all on board and mentioned it to Ace. I had already put my confirmed vote in for Judd but it was important for me to make sure Ace knew and agreed with what I was going to do because I wanted to still stick with Gwad and having one of the Gwad members know about what I was going to do and agree to it makes it less of a crime. So that is how the outcast alliance was formed and after Judd left I felt like everyone but you and Mary trusted me maybe not fully but enough.

For me I knew the way I was playing this game I was going to be too big of final tribal council threat to take to the end. My goal was not to get to Final 3 but to get to Final 4 and win immunity. The outcast alliance was not going to last. I was by far the biggest threat in that alliance and I knew I would probably finish 7th or 6th if I stuck with them. I mean I honestly never really considered switching it up. I am not saying I couldn’t have, It was definitely a possibility but at this point I still trusted Ted and knew that if he ever wanted to turn on me I still had my idol as well as the common knowledge that he was with Jay and Ace to use against him.

I was honestly very confused when you said Ted’s game was more transparent than mine. I can see maybe in your mind but I knew for a fact that you did not like or trust me after the whole issue with the Frosti vote and you knew that I was lying but you are the only one who could really read that. It was common knowledge that Ted, Jay and Ace were close and it was not common knowledge that I was with them. This is why come Final 6 Kelly and Eliza did not come to you to try to make a move (even though I suggested it as fodder to use on Jay against Ace). They still assumed that I was with them. I feel that is transparency at its finest. To believe that someone is with you when they really aren’t. The reason everyone is mad at me because I played the game for myself is because I convinced them that I was in an alliance with them. I played the game to get Gwad to the finals. Of course in the process I wanted to play the best game out of the three Gwads which I feel I did but in the end I wanted my alliance in the end. The fact that I convinced others that I wanted them in the end kind of backs up the point that people didn’t really know where my head was at until it was too late.

Unless you meant transparent in a different way I felt I was a lot tougher to read that Ted. Yes this made me shady and yes I am sure my name came up multiple times and yes I knew that it would be VERY beneficial for me to win the 14 hour challenge which is why I stayed up 14 hours but at the same time with how the game was shaping up a lot of people needed me, Shady or not. I knew Ted or Ace would be taking a huge risk by going after me because I had the outcast alliance to lean back on and the outcast alliance was convinced I was with them because of the Judd vote. On the note of being targeted apart from Misty’s vote I do not believe I received a single vote despite being non immune at 4 merge tribal councils. Ted would of left if I hadn’t stuck with him at F5 and would have been in a TB if I decided at F4 so I don’t see how my name being brought up was bad for me. Ted’s name was brought up quite a bit the round Judd left and the round after but I knew that was not going to happen. Being Shady and Non Transparent is difficult to do because if people know what you are doing it is not really being shady. I do understand where you come from because I tried my best to get on your good side, especially voting for Kelly when I knew it was fruitless but I knew I had to watch out for you.

On Ted not being viewed as a threat kind of hidden in that way I once again disagree. The outcast alliance named two people as the two chiefs and that would be Ted and Coach so there was no hiding the fact that Ted was the face of the Jay and Ace alliance. So I do not think you meant that because based on what other people looked at they said Ted with three people and me with myself. The only reason I could have been seen as more of a threat was because of my challenge success.
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If you meant transparent on a round to round basis that was on purpose. I made sure for the most part people knew what my thought process was because the more you tell people the more they trust you. But on the whole game basis I know people didn’t trust me 100% but they trusted me enough to want to keep me around which is really the point of the game right? To stay alive.

On another note with immunity. My pre merge game was not stellar post swap. I did not really have any cards in my hand and tried too hard to switch things up. I did the best with what I had though. I made sure Ted gave me immunity despite the fact we were still trying to convince people we were against each other. The vote Frosti left was a huge miscue on my game and something I should have seen. Thankfully Judd bailed me out of that. As for if we had lost again I would of played my idol. You told me yourself you were throwing but I knew I was safe for one more tribal. I don’t think that is hiding behind immunity because I convinced both Misty and Ted to let me win that first captain’s challenge which allowed me to go to Salsus. There I spent a couple hours finding the idol so I think I deserved that idol and did not end up needing it. I don’t think my post swap game should be a huge point against on me winning because for as bad of a hand as I was dealt I made sure that I was safe.

For post merge immunity the only pre final 5 challenge that I won was the double boot challenge. My idol was getting played if I hadn’t won so winning immunity was only beneficial to Gwad as a whole. Final 5 was not necessary but left me with the final decision which was nice and as I said earlier I wanted to get to Final 4 because I knew I could win that challenge and make Final 3.

So now for the question you have been waiting for. Why take Ted to the end. Well there are three reasons that I voted for Eliza at the Final 4 tribal council. Reason 1 was because I didn’t want a tie. Yes a weak reason but if I was going to vote Ted out at F4 I would want to make sure he left. If he survived he could of easily used that as me saying he was going to beat me in the finals so I wanted him out. Which is Reason number 2. I believe that I should be able to beat him in the finals. Of course seeing your and Ace’s videos I am not so sure but I am convinced that I deserve to beat him in the finals as I will explain later. The final reason and probably the most important was re-iterated earlier. He was my ally. We were in this game from the beginning and the only reason I would of voted him off at F4 was if I knew he was going to demolish me in the finals. Him and I have played this game from day 1 as allies we started it battling for the captain of the favorites and we are ending it battling for the Sole Survivor. I felt there was no reason for me to vote him off over Eliza who I had only been with since the merge and who I felt had nowhere near the blood that Ted and I had on our hands. At final four I felt that I could beat anyone in the finals and why would I betray the only ally I’ve been with since the beginning for a slightly if any easier final tribal council. I hope this answers your question. If it is not the reason you were hoping for sorry but it was why I did it. I felt bad voting out Judd who was hurting my game with his mouth and our known ties but voting out Ted right before the Final Tribal Council even though we had been playing side by side since the beginning which be an unspeakably douchy move.

Alright and now why I deserve to win over Ted. You said something in your statement which kind of got to me. In went along the lines of what moves did you make that weren’t with Ted because he seemed to be in control. I watched it twice and cringed both times I heard it. I hate being arrogant legitimately I know arrogance is a part of the Bob Dawg package but I rarely am legitimately arrogant so I am going to try to not to sound arrogant. Yes Ted controlled Jay and was tight with Ace however that is just a small alliance which was the alliance I ended up with but I was the reason that this alliance did not fail. The main reason that the Judd boot (which was again my idea) was so game changing was because three is not a scary number. An alliance of 3 is intimidating but as I heard multiple people tell me at the Final 9 tribal council something that can be dealt with at the final 7. An alliance of 4 or even 5 has to be dealt with ASAP because those bitches can run the game. But because of me and not Ted, and not Jay no one saw us as an alliance of 4. They saw me as the Shady outcast who was going to side with the person that could get him the farthest. That was my strategy! Had you guys known that I was going to go with the three Gwads we would have been in trouble. Even though my name came up because I had all these branches apart from that unpredictable double tribal council there was really no time that I was in danger. Before the double the outcasts trusted me and needed numbers and so did Gwad. After the double it was all about Gwad getting to the end. I may have been shady but I did so in a way that I was not a target.

I really hope this answers your question. Sorry if it seems like I am rambling I was trying to get my point across that I am really the one who orchestrated the plan to get Gwad to the final 3. It was not the most conventional way to get to the finals but not only did it keep me safe it left with a backdoor route if things went wrong. That is why I played the best game and deserve to win this game

[Ted Rogers]

Wow awesome Bob wrote a novel! I have a few things I would like to add here too. First off, about how well Bob and I hid our gameplay and the whole transparency thing. I think what Coach was trying to insinuate if I understand correctly was it was obvious that Bob was playing both sides, or all sides in fact. I was doing the exact same thing, playing Nesoi side, Desterados side and then later on simply the Coach/Mary side versus the Kourtney/Kelly side, with Mike and Eliza being somewhere in the middle. The difference is with me, it was not so apparent that I was playing both sides, whereas with Bob it was very apparent that was exactly what he was doing. Coach figured out I was doing this the round he was voted off, but he knew Bob was much earlier.

Basically Bob was seen as not being trustworthy and I was seen as more trustworthy, when in fact we were playing the game similarly, but I hid it a lot better.

Second, the whole logic of voting Judd off to make Gwadatoo appear less threatening with only 4 members instead of 5 I really don't buy. Kourtney felt Coach and I were the ones in charge, and Coach and Kourtney were both extremely against one another. I don't believe that Gwadatoo's numbers or the chance that we would stick together was truly on their minds. If Eliza had gone home 11th, and we had our 5 Gwad players at the Final 10, it would be EXTREMELY unlikely that Kourtney and Coach were going to get together say "Hey, we should work together here and vote for someone from Gwadatoo", not to mention Kelly teaming up with Mary and Coach right after they tried to vote her off. Everyone else besides Gwadatoo was so divided at the time I don't think that was any cause for concern.


I remember the night Judd went home you were bummed out knowing that if you had voted Eliza, she would have gone instead as you were under the impression your vote didn't matter when it actually did.

So I disagree that that move was the defining move for you, Judd had your back and wanted to take out Jay and Ace at some point as well. I think both you and I would have still made the end of the game had Judd stayed with the only difference being Judd may have possibly been here sitting next to us instead of Jay.



As for you making a new alliance in the form of Kourtney, Kelly, Mike and Eliza, I had immediately countered your alliance by proposing to Coach and Mary that we team up against that. I knew Kourtney had wanted to target me the round before so going along with Coach's plan to blindside her made a lot of sense. But once again, especially with us down a player, I went back to the strategy that had been working the whole game, playing Coach against Kourtney and vica versa. So I made sure by siding with Coach and Mary that you didn't have a better option than sticking with Gwadatoo. In that way you tried to take control of the game but I took it back right afterwards.



As for Bob not betraying me, if you really think about it his best chance was at the Final 5 by voting with Kelly and Eliza, but had he done that Kelly who was an endurance beast would have gone to the F4, and Jay would have been furious at Bob for betraying me. Had Kelly beaten Bob at the Final 4 challenge, he was probably gone in 4th place. That's a big risk to take in order to blindside me when he knew I would have his back going into the Final 4.

[Ted Rogers]

Just so all the cards are out on the table. Bob is says he "orchestrated" the plan for Gwad Final 3, but I had that planned for long time coming. This is my answers to the MERGE questions the host gave us when Maliki was formed. With the exception of Judd and Eliza, the game went pretty closely to how I intended it to go.

Aug 2, 2012 8:17:07 GMT -5 Ted Rogers said:

1. Who is your closest ally? Do you plan to go to the end with them?

Bob Dawg and yeah I plan to honor my deal and go to the finals with him

2. Who would you say is the biggest overall threat remaining? Strategic? Social? Physical?

Its a Three-Way tie between Bob, Kourtney and Coach. They are the captains of the 3 tribes essentially, although Coach didn't get the actual title.

I am actually the biggest threat left in the game, hope no one notices



3. Who do you want out next?

Eliza, she isn't on much, no one really likes her outside Coach and Mary

4. What's your strategy from here on out? How do you plan on making it to the finals?

My main goal is an all Gwadaoo Final 5, Including Ace as an honorary Gwadatoo member and he is more than welcome.

Eliza/Mike and then either Coach/Mary should be 11th and 10th place, depending on immunity. With the 5 Gwadatoo + Kourtney, we have 6 votes to their 5, it's gonna be close but it can be done.


Final 9-Final5 is whoever is left that is NOT Gwadatoo in basically any order we want. Should be like shooting fish in a barrell. Final 7 would be interesting though, since that would be the ideal time for some sneaky Gwadatoo members to try and make a move against the others. I could see Bob or Jay being blindsided at this point due to their idols. But overall, the idols may not even be needed

At the Final 5...well I sort of a Final 3 deal with Bob and Judd AND Jay/Ace, so unless they all talk a lot, I am in a good spot. It is likely going to be Ace going at the Final 5, and at the Final 4 I would need to choose between Judd and Jay...which is gonna SUCK.



Preferred bootlist if things all go according to plan


11th-Eliza-Easy target



10th-Coach- Big threat and Desterado tribe leader



9th- Kourtney- so fucking cut-throat to dump her right away, but that may actually be the right thing to do, because she is SERIOUS challenge contender and could easily win if she fought her way to the end against all odds.



8th-Mary- No one likes on Gwad, they think she is manipulative and annoying



**7th- Mike-Dangerous round here, if we go simply according to plan, probably Mike. He hasn't been around much but I know experience he can be a huge contender when he is



6th- Kelly




5th- Ace, all original Gwad to the Final 4

or

4th- Judd or Jay, I will probably force a tie and let the cards fall where they may. I won't vote for Bob Dawg, and if he beats me in the finals, then all power to him.



5. Which cast members do you think deserves to make All Stars? Why?


Gwadatoo, Kourtney and Coach, maybe Frosti if one of those Gwads have less than stellar confessionals, because that dude caused some absolute havoc and went out with an atomic bang

[Coach]

You guys are really fighting it well and I'm struggling on this decision, I have to say. I'll post some more detailed thoughts when I get a moment before it's too late to post them. But damn, you're playing this juror round well.

[Captain Bob Dawg]

Alright well I guess this is the rebuttal of the rebuttal.

Now that I believe this transparency thing has been understood I can easily field it.


While I think it was more obvious based on my voting scheme that I was playing both sides it really did not hurt my game at all. Everyone still assumed that in the end I was with them. In Ted's case I think his transparency was because Ted's ties to people outside of Coach and Mary were not as strong as mine. The reason Ace is going and saying that everyone thinks im a villain and are butthurt that they got voted out by me backs up the point that I played this playing all sides better because had they truly felt like Ted were with them they would be pissed at Ted and not me. So I believe the I was more "transparent" than Ted was because he was not as sucessful at securing everyone on his side as I was. And as I pointed out in my "novel" Ted was easily grouped with Gwadatoo where as I was more portrayed as a lone wolf. So I think that benefitted me because people may of been less likely to trust me due to the previously mentioned shadiness but atleast I didn't have an obvious three person alliance. So that is why I think I was more successful in playing all the sides so I think under the theory that me and Ted player the same game I played better.


Now about the Judd vote. while I did tell Ted that I didn't know I was going to be the swing vote that was not true at all. I knew my vote was going to be the swing. Judd had IMed me about Coach voting for Kelly so I knew it was going to be 4-4-2 without my vote. I believe I atleast discussed the possibility with Ace of my vote being the swing vote. So yea the only reason I told Ted that was to make him less mad at me and to do damage control. I knew that, according to Judd, Coach and Mary were voting Kelly and that had I voted Judd he would go home.

As for explaining why the move made sense was because I still didn't trust Ted 100%. Going to the final 5 with Gwad was something I did not want to do because that put all the power in Ted's hand which was the same power that ended up being in my hand. I do believe had us five all five orginal members of Gwad voted for Eliza that there was a good chance that Kourtney and Coach would of realized what was going on. I also knew from Ace that he told me that had Judd not left he would of went after me. At the final 11 you can't look at five people and believe that they will be loyal to take to you to the final 5, especially with the caliber of players in that group. Obviously we cannot go back in time and see what would of happened but really not only did Judd leaving benefit me personally but I feel based on the fact five people are not only incredibly threatning but also tough to keep tight it also helped our alliance. And before you say why not Jay or Ace who didn't have my back had I voted out one of them the other would not be willing to stick to F4 so that was why it had to be Judd.

I disagree with the fact that Ted gained control the next round. Had I wanted to I could of ensured that someone from Gwad/Desterado left that next round. Until I expressed that I wanted to vote Kelly to Mike and Eliza it was going to be a tie and I could of used my idol because I knew who was getting votes. Of course I did not want but regardless had I really wanted to abandon Gwad I had that choice.

Yes Final 5 was a better round than Final 4 to vote out Ted but I didn't for the same reasons that I said in Final 3. It would of been a pointless betrayal and as Ted said probably put me in more risk.

As for when I said I orchestrated the alliance to the finals it was not exclusively the boot order. I do think me having the insight to smallen our alliance tranversely helped our alliance. Im not saying Ted bossed me around in the voting decision I think we all had an equal say in who to vote and we never really had an arguement about who to vote. I was more talking about getting our alliance to the end by not making our alliance known. As multiple jurors said they did not see that we were together and that was because I broke myself away and tried to hide that fact. So that is how I felt that I orchestrated the Gwad final 3.

[Juddy Bear]

That accent!!!!